they've given us an excuse to move in with the b-2 flyovers and the f-22s, not something that china wants to see long-term. >> and secretary cohen. i want to end on you, which is the question andrea and i have been talking about all week and that everyone has been talking about all week, is this time with north korea different? do we have any way of knowing that? >> i think it's different, in the sense that you have a young and i would say rather immature young leader who really doesn't have much worldly experience. and again escalating the rhetoric to the point of threatening a nuclear attack upon the united states or our allies. when you engage in that kind of rhetoric, it becomes much more difficult to find a way down from the heights of that. and so i think that it makes it different now that we see that they are becoming much more aggressive. at least rhetorically. they are developing more in terms of the testing of the third test of a nuclear weapon. they are going to be testing a longer-range missile capability. so it's different because you've got a young leader who doesn't, i thi